18 mil?

[matt72033]

was it?

for someone who cant even pass to his own team

[vin]

Harsh.

[matt72033]

but true

[North Wales Red]

but true

Give the lad a chance.
It wasn't exactly the best conditions to make your second start in a red shirt was it?

[tamir_m]

He was fantastic at the start of the season, hopefully he will hit that form again
but Rafa have so much work with him, he must sort out his defending...

[Babel_Fish]

2 Great threads.. Well Done Matt.

[RedsLFCStevieG]

Give him some more time. I think he'll come good.

[3-1-3-3]

There's certain players that have the 'class' required and it shows in the way they position themselves, control, lay-off the ball etc.

This guy is the real deal!

NB: I have to say though that in Rafa's regime I thought Morientes was of the same ilk :confused:

[vin]

are you talking about Aqualani or Johnson. I assumed you meant Alberto

[Thomas18]

£18million, your right Carrick is never worth that!!

[matt72033]

alberto....unimpressed to say the least tonight

[johnnyred]

So it seems that in the era of fickle fans craving 'instant success' and becoming more and more increasingly impatiently vocal when they dont get it, some also crave new foreign signings [coming back from injury no less too] to instantly hit the ground running otherwise they label them as a waste of money.

Give me a fucking break.

[Insidious]

was it?

for someone who cant even pass to his own team

Aquilani is;

A progressive passer.
Raw talent.
Is well thought of by Francesco Totti who knows a thing or two about football.
Has showed a great urge to get to grips with the English language (saw a recent interview and he has already got a lot of basic phrases down).
Has only started 2 games after a long injury.
Played in snow tonight in a league which has a different pace to the Serie A.
Took a free-kick from 25 yards ("Gerrard range"-Gerrard obviously respects the guy's ability, as shown by the fact he didn't take it himself).
Knows when to pass backward for safety.
Moves forward when he passes the ball sideways, thus advancing the attack and creating space.
Keeps an eye on the player he's just passed to in case they need support due to opponents pressing.
Is developing chemistry with Steven Gerrard, who is the main feeder of balls to Torres.

And you're unhappy after 2 matches?

Judge him after 15-20 matches mate, no disrespect, but he needs time to learn;

Chemistry with his team-mates
To play in Rafa's system
To adapt to a totally different league.

Rather than be disappointed with what we haven't yet seen, I've been very impressed with what we HAVE seen and the times I've watched Roma matches, I've been impressed.

Also, he isn't Alonso. He's a different player.

Give him time.

[finnan23]

alberto....unimpressed to say the least tonight


It's his second start in a new league after being injured forever you stupid twat

[steviegerrard1]

Voronin looked good on his first two appearances for us. You get the drift.

[LFC vs PFC]

It's his second start in a new league after being injured forever you stupid twat


Disagree if you want, but must you stsart throwing obscenities. Not only is it vulgar and makes you sound like a barely literate hayseed, it is also extremely dull!

[konghøst]

I think it says a whole lot about someones personality to post a thread like that on a night like this

[Eising agreed]

He's been hit and miss, but considering he's only played two games I'll take the hits as a bonus at this stage and forgive the misses. He's come into a team that have been low on results and confidence and needs to settle in.

We've won every league game that he's started as well, so he can't be that bad.

[postman_allan]

FOR FUCK SAKE, the guy has quality i thought even an idiot could see it. i must be wrong though because your an idiot and you cant see it.:confused:

[konghøst]

He's been hit and miss, but considering he's only played two games I'll take the hits as a bonus at this stage and forgive the misses. He's come into a team that have been low on results and confidence and needs to settle in.

We've won every league game that he's started as well, so he can't be that bad.

Tonight he gathered some valuable experience

[Strangetimes]

Disagree if you want, but must you stsart throwing obscenities. Not only is it vulgar and makes you sound like a barely literate hayseed, it is also extremely dull!

you misspelt 'start'

[btcclfc80]

Sod off man.
We've had 2 back to back wins for the first time since September, he's played in both and some halfwit creates a thread like this. What's happened, is Rafa 'OK for a week' now? Bore off. Now's a time to be positive. A good away win against a good Villa side with a good home record. Every player - and Rafa - deserves a huge pat on the back.
Did feel for Martin O'Neill tho lol!

[finnan23]

Disagree if you want, but must you stsart throwing obscenities. Not only is it vulgar and makes you sound like a barely literate hayseed, it is also extremely dull!

You would be mostly right but what is the point in such a negative thread after a game like that. It's also nonsense and ridiculously narrow sighted

[RedNoodle]

We have to give him time. He has been injured and has only just started playing for a new team in a much faster/more physical league.

Yes he did not play that well tonight but considering the above and the conditions I think some are being a bit harsh/quick to judge, especially when there are some others who have no such reasons/excuses and are still playing poorly.

[hairpie]

to op .really.i post on here that infrequent that i had to check my password,but you made me wanna post! good god lad....have a fuckin word with yourself. are you 9 yrs old?

[Gold digger]

What's the point, we won an important game against a rival for the top 4. Just enjoy the feeling of a good win, which has been a rarity this season.

[Insidious]

I think some are being a bit harsh/quick to judge, especially when there are some others who have no such reasons/excuses and are still playing poorly.

Damn right.

Don't think this thread would have arisen if some people weren't still pining after Alonso, who is, at the end of the day, gone.

Two starts. Two wins. Progressive passer of the ball, quality player. Mentioned it in my previous post, but Gerrard trusted him to take a direct free kick tonight and I for one thinks that speaks volumes about what Stevie thinks of Alberto's ability.

[alinfarah]

ok he misplaced a few passes but cut the guy some slack. There was a lot of interchanging of passes - momentum - in the middle of the park. I hate to say it but throw in Masch and we get the dread Bermuda triangle of momentum - Lucas - Masch - Kuyt! I'd like to see Lucas - Aquilani - Yossi as first choice with perhaps a resurgent Reira (who I think, with Kuyt, has been the most patchy player this season).

[redsam]

was it?

for someone who cant even pass to his own team

Nothing like giving a new signing the time to blend into his new team :rolleyes:

That's the kind of line that a new age, whopper would come out with.

[Rafalicious]

Aquilani is;

A progressive passer.
Raw talent.
Is well thought of by Francesco Totti who knows a thing or two about football.
Has showed a great urge to get to grips with the English language (saw a recent interview and he has already got a lot of basic phrases down).
Has only started 2 games after a long injury.
Played in snow tonight in a league which has a different pace to the Serie A.
Took a free-kick from 25 yards ("Gerrard range"-Gerrard obviously respects the guy's ability, as shown by the fact he didn't take it himself).
Knows when to pass backward for safety.
Moves forward when he passes the ball sideways, thus advancing the attack and creating space.
Keeps an eye on the player he's just passed to in case they need support due to opponents pressing.
Is developing chemistry with Steven Gerrard, who is the main feeder of balls to Torres.

And you're unhappy after 2 matches?

Judge him after 15-20 matches mate, no disrespect, but he needs time to learn;

Chemistry with his team-mates
To play in Rafa's system
To adapt to a totally different league.

Rather than be disappointed with what we haven't yet seen, I've been very impressed with what we HAVE seen and the times I've watched Roma matches, I've been impressed.

Also, he isn't Alonso. He's a different player.

Give him time.

Well I haven't watched any of Roma's matches ... but I have to agree with you. I've watched (albeit on TV) all of Aquilani's time on the pitch for Liverpool (including the reserves).

I'm very encouraged by what I've seen (movement, control, vision and passing ability) and can't wait for more.

[Sweetman]

to op .really.i post on here that infrequent that i had to check my password,but you made me wanna post! good god lad....have a fuckin word with yourself. are you 9 yrs old?


1 post, yup :)



anyway, this thread is wank, as is the other one you've made.

[miller0863]

Ha ha....er.."hayseed" LvP ?

[JOHNG]

was it?

for someone who cant even pass to his own team

Course he can't.

[dicko1969]

alberto....unimpressed to say the least tonight

You with these types of comments are getting into twataspherical levels.

How the fuck can you judge someone after 2 matches?

How can someone who has played 16 times or so for Italy and play at the highest level in Italy and Champions league be 'shit' as you would probably put it.

You should go support Chelsea or Camberley Town.

FFS how stupid, this does deserve an ironical LOL. (sorry MODs)

[dicko1969]

PS are you the same idiot who text bbc live text?

[johnnyred]

'Unwelcome Matt'?

[fiordearg]

thought alberto played well given his second full game, the bad conditions and the tempo of the game which he would not be used to. i liked the way he was helping lucas during the game. that was a big difference for me: lucas looked to me a better player in the two games alongside aquilani than he has done with masch. liked that he looked for positive link up play (alberto) and moved into more attacking zones. he looked very inventive at times. sometimes it looked the pace of the game was about to overwhelm him but lucas helped him out well a few times.

he's played in two games, we've won and not conceded a goal.

[Duster]

So you can be a supporter and have no clue about the game afterall.

unreal.

[LFC vs PFC]

A hayseed is a country bumpkin, reminiscent of Cleetus the slack jawed yokel, from The Simpsons.

[miller0863]

Ok LvP, I'll be using that again re slack jawed yokels.

[cocknyred]

No game for Alberto tonight either. Is he gonna be another multi million pound flop. Why did Rafa buy him if he's not going to play him. For £20 mill too. Do we not have scouts? Does he have a fucking clue what he's doing.

[dublinlfc]

No game for Alberto tonight either. Is he gonna be another multi million pound flop. Why did Rafa buy him if he's not going to play him. For £20 mill too. Do we not have scouts? Does he have a fucking clue what he's doing.
Have I dreamt the last half hour then?

[scaton]

Must win game next weekend. One central midfielder already suspended.

It makes a lot of sense to leave one of them out today. And given that Aquilani has struggled with injuries more than Lucas, he's probably the one to choose.

[crazydog]

When all is said and done.

It's time for a change

[North Wales Red]

When all is said and done.

It's time for a change

Yeah, you've been wearing those y-fronts for days now.

[crazydog]

Great post.

You must be pleased with yourself

[North Wales Red]

Great post.

You must be pleased with yourself

Even a blank post would be better than anything you've contributed wum.

[crazydog]

Wum???????

[johnnyred]

It appears that you are;

Yes.

[redman99]

Wum???????

Stop Wind----ing him Up you Merchant s

;)

[youngster]

Looks a shocking waste of money,20m for a player with no pace,needs 10mins on the ball all the time,very limited passing range for someone who was to fill alonso boots always pass's back or sideways(looks like an italian version of neil lennon) yet another waste of money by rafa,he's spent alot of money on some very overated players who just aren't up to scratch

[North Wales Red]

Looks a shocking waste of money,20m for a player with no pace,needs 10mins on the ball all the time,very limited passing range for someone who was to fill alonso boots always pass's back or sideways(looks like an italian version of neil lennon) yet another waste of money by rafa,he's spent alot of money on some very overated players who just aren't up to scratch

Jog on child.

[youngster]

Jog on child.

Get a life asshole,im aloud to have opinion and if you've seen anything different please tell me,in the 3 games hes played has he done anything that sticks in your mind??

[alifino]

Get a life asshole,im aloud to have opinion and if you've seen anything different please tell me,in the 3 games hes played has he done anything that sticks in your mind??

Are you Nadine Coyle?

[youngster]

Are you Nadine Coyle?

:) :) good one.. close im the ginger one :D

[North Wales Red]

Get a life asshole,im aloud to have opinion and if you've seen anything different please tell me,in the 3 games hes played has he done anything that sticks in your mind??

Opinions are like arseholes......everbody has one and yours is full of shit.

[redsunny]

Opinions are like arseholes......everbody has one and yours is full of shit.

Don't mean to butt in, but some just got told!

Lol

[youngster]

Opinions are like arseholes......everbody has one and yours is full of shit.

your one of these toss pots who cant have anyone with an opinion diffrent than yours but lets just wait and see who right and whos wrong about him,like dossena he just dosen't look like he can handle the pace and physical style of the english game(i'l predict he dosen't cut it and moves back to italy for half the money we paid)

Give me your opinion on him after his 1st few games??

[redsunny]

I take this thread is about aquaman. The guy came on with 14 mins left to play. For me aqua performance today, well I can't really question it cos the whole team was struggling to find a pass. So I can't really single out aqualani. At the moment I'm thinking that there is a lack of creatively intelligent players. We played a left back as left wing and a striker as right wing. I really think we need genuine wingers who can play the position

[alifino]

your one of these toss pots who cant have anyone with an opinion diffrent than yours but lets just wait and see who right and whos wrong about him,like dossena he just dosen't look like he can handle the pace and physical style of the english game(i'l predict he dosen't cut it and moves back to italy for half the money we paid)

Give me your opinion on him after his 1st few games??

Youve answered your own question there, you cant definitively say much about him based on what little game time he's got.
Also id lay off the personal abuse if i were you or you'll not last long.

[North Wales Red]

your one of these toss pots who cant have anyone with an opinion diffrent than yours but lets just wait and see who right and whos wrong about him,like dossena he just dosen't look like he can handle the pace and physical style of the english game(i'l predict he dosen't cut it and moves back to italy for half the money we paid)

Give me your opinion on him after his 1st few games??

That's about the most sensible thing you've written.

[youngster]

Youve answered your own question there, you cant definitively say much about him based on what little game time he's got.
Also id lay off the personal abuse if i were you or you'll not last long.

Yes i said wot i think of him and was asking wot north wales red's opinion of him was so we could look back in 6 months time and see whos right??

I think i was the one called arsehole whos full of shit in my last message

[redsunny]

The only genuine winger we have is riera who is injured, and benayoun who didn't start. How the f are suppose to create anything. Benayoun should have started for me.

[alifino]

Yes i said wot i think of him and was asking wot north wales red's opinion of him was so we could look back in 6 months time and see whos right??

I think i was the one called arsehole whos full of shit in my last message

You're only using a ridiculously short space of time to form your opinon though.In 6 months time if he ends up being like your description i hope you enjoy your victory.

[youngster]

That's about the most sensible thing you've written.

Glad we're agreeing on something :D :D

But seriously give me yout thoughts on him,i've been very disappointed with him after the big build up think we've spent alot of money on to many players who aren't the class and thats why we're in the shape we're in,Rafas spending has me worried about things and with us having so little money can we really keep making mistakes??

[youngster]

You're only using a ridiculously short space of time to form your opinon though.In 6 months time if he ends up being like your description i hope you enjoy your victory.

I really hope im wrong for we really need some top notch players to challenge the gypsys :D :D but im never to far wrong with 1st impressions on new players and really dont like wot im seeing from him

[Finlay's Dad]

I really hope im wrong for we really need some top notch players to challenge the gypsys :D :D but im never to far wrong with 1st impressions on new players and really dont like wot im seeing from him

Alot of us on here are the same with new posters. Best of luck on the other forums ;)

[youngster]

Alot of us on here are the same with new posters. Best of luck on the other forums ;)

Thanx ;) I know im new,you have to start somewhere,everyone on here was a new poster at one time

[Bridgeman]

I really hope im wrong for we really need some top notch players to challenge the gypsys :D :D but im never to far wrong with 1st impressions on new players and really dont like wot im seeing from him

bet your name is richard head isn't it

[youngster]

bet your name is richard head isn't it

No not me sorry :D :D

[Bridgeman]

No not me sorry :D :D

well you're making yourself sound a right dick. bet you're fm10 expert

[youngster]

well you're making yourself sound a right dick. bet you're fm10 expert

Your a Top of the range T***** ;) ;)

[Old Big Ears]

Get a life asshole,im aloud to have opinion and if you've seen anything different please tell me,in the 3 games hes played has he done anything that sticks in your mind??

You Americans haven't got a clue?

[cocknyred]

No not me sorry :D :D

Don't worry about the regulars mate, if you dont agree with their views you get a good shunting because they cant handle the truth. Ostriches the lot of them.

[Bridgeman]

You Americans haven't got a clue?

thats awesome dude!

[Bridgeman]

Don't worry about the regulars mate, if you dont agree with their views you get a good shunting because they cant handle the truth. Ostriches the lot of them.

so you agree with him then. aqilani is shit. he can decide this after three games and you second it do ya

[cocknyred]

so you agree with him then. aqilani is shit. he can decide this after three games and you second it do ya

He said that in his opinion Aquilani has looked shit so far and in 6 months he'll possilby be moved on. I agree that he has looked shit so far and tbh, if he does continue to play like that, he probably will be moved on...or not, because I think Rafa knows he wouldnt survive another Keane. But if Aquilani doesnt improve I think that will be one too many for Rafa, if his time isnt already up. Rafa can have no excuses. He makes so many notes, you'd think he'd know something about the players he's signing.

[youngster]

Don't worry about the regulars mate, if you dont agree with their views you get a good shunting because they cant handle the truth. Ostriches the lot of them.

Thanx mate im thick skinned,think it gets the old wrinklies knickers in a twist when someone says something that they dont like,think its time they woke up and see the state we're in and stop thinking anyone who has an opinion that isnt theres is a dick head or something im a big fan but like to call s spade a spade

[Bridgeman]

He said that in his opinion Aquilani has looked shit so far and in 6 months he'll possilby be moved on. I agree that he has looked shit so far and tbh, if he does continue to play like that, he probably will be moved on...or not, because I think Rafa knows he wouldnt survive another Keane. But if Aquilani doesnt improve I think that will be one too many for Rafa, if his time isnt already up. Rafa can have no excuses. He makes so many notes, you'd think he'd know something about the players he's signing.

think he actual said later that his first impressions are hardly ever wrong or something to tha effect, do you really think thats fair after only 3 games.

[Finlay's Dad]

think he actual said later that his first impressions are hardly ever wrong or something to tha effect, do you really think thats fair after only 3 games.

Save your breath. You really are wasting your time with him. Post #51 is where wumster made his original point and shows what kind of fuckin nob he is.

[youngster]

Save your breath. You really are wasting your time with him. Post #51 is where wumster made his original point and shows what kind of fuckin nob he is.

Yeah i'l stand bye my original,its my opinion of him..fuckin nob you say??good one smarty,wot line did you get into when brains were being given out??If brains were dynamite you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose off..

[alifino]

Well Fin, it would appear that you've been served. If you serve him back, then my friend, it is ON! :rolleyes:

Im sure im not alone in finding this ridiculously dull?

[Finlay's Dad]

Well Fin, it would appear that you've been served. If you serve him back, then my friend, it is ON! :rolleyes:

Im sure im not alone in finding this ridiculously dull?

I think it's easier to just ignore what they post and do not reply to any of the ridiculous threads they start. Hopefully they'll get bored and do one.

[youngster]

Well Fin, it would appear that you've been served. If you serve him back, then my friend, it is ON! :rolleyes:

Im sure im not alone in finding this ridiculously dull?

Totally agree Ali its very dull,when someone makes a point thats dosen't agree with someone else they think it gives them the right to start abusing you or think your a manc or something,why not reply with something that might change there mind or give them reason to think??

[alifino]

...whistles nonchalantly.......

[Madeiran Red]

Can't belive u are judging a player in this manner after such little game time. Especially one who has been injured up until now and has also still got to get to grips with the pace of the English game. I myself haven't been overly impressed, but the same sentiments go towards most of the team at the mo. I will however give him tine to show me what he can do before judging him.

I seem to remember Pires being pretty wank when he first arrived. Drogba and henry weren't exactly world class in their first seasons either.

[bjornebye20]

The only genuine winger we have is riera who is injured, and benayoun who didn't start. How the f are suppose to create anything. Benayoun should have started for me.

So, by your thesis, you believe you need wingers to create chances?
Hmmm. How then did Chelsea manage to create so many chances with a narrow diamond midfield of Mikel, Lampard, Essien and Ballack?

[bjornebye20]

Alberto Aquilani?
Well, judging by how quickly we signed him from Roma after Alonso's departure I can only assume that the signing was planned and that the delay of Alonso's sale was to hike the price up as much as possible.
Aquilani was signed for £17m rising to a possible £20.5m if I remember correctly.
Though he was bought as a replacement for Alonso it was in no way meant to be a like for like replacement. Benitez said at his purchase that he was much more mobile than Alonso. This suggested he wouldn't have the passing range of Alonso but that he would make up for it by passing and moving forward (which he has shown glimpses of in his few appearances thus far), we were also told he was bought with an injury and that they reviewed extensively that he wasn't injury prone. After recovering (albeit slowly) from his original injury he had a slight calf strain. One thing we can be disapointed with his slow rehabilitation but he has been victim of some heavy challenges so far and hasn't crumbled like biscuits.
We mustn't forget he has started 3 games for us. 2 of which in the league we won, with clean sheets. The other was a dead rubber in the Champs League which on balance we deserved to win.
To say he looks off pace is probably not solely because of his lack of familiarity with the League but also a lack of fitness. His lack of fitness should be addressed.

We have seen good glimpses and its harsh to judge the bloke yet. We will see.

[silverbolt]

Voronin looked good on his first two appearances for us. You get the drift.

btw, where is Voronin nowadays? :D

[Bridgeman]

Thanx mate im thick skinned,think it gets the old wrinklies knickers in a twist when someone says something that they dont like,think its time they woke up and see the state we're in and stop thinking anyone who has an opinion that isnt theres is a dick head or something im a big fan but like to call s spade a spade

who are you then? john merrick

[MikeyRed]

Youve answered your own question there, you cant definitively say much about him based on what little game time he's got.
Also id lay off the personal abuse if i were you or you'll not last long.

But it's always the same people starting the abuse. Finley's Dad, SwissLFC ... It's all they seem to do. Youngster ... you can add them to your ignore list if you like. Finley's dad for one neve comes up with anything other much other than insults.

[konghøst]

But it's always the same people starting the abuse. Finley's Dad, SwissLFC ... It's all they seem to do. Youngster ... you can add them to your ignore list if you like. Finley's dad for one neve comes up with anything other much other than insults.

That's a load of horse and I for one think you are a WUM

[shmol]

But it's always the same people starting the abuse. Finley's Dad, SwissLFC ... It's all they seem to do. Youngster ... you can add them to your ignore list if you like. Finley's dad for one neve comes up with anything other much other than insults.
They only do that to people who have a history of talking bollocks

[Bridgeman]

They only do that to people who have a history of talking bollocks

exactly. personally any guy who can judge a player to be crap after 3 games deserves all the abuse he gets for been a wum manc wanker. have respect for quintuple, at least he had the balls to come on here as a manc and even congraulated us after we thrashed them 4-1 at ot last year

[Finlay's Dad]

But it's always the same people starting the abuse. Finley's Dad, SwissLFC ... It's all they seem to do. Youngster ... you can add them to your ignore list if you like. Finley's dad for one neve comes up with anything other much other than insults.

Hmmm, pleb, simple, nob, idiot, tool, tit and plank are normally my favourites. I suppose you need tough skin to take them though :rolleyes:

It's 'Finlay's Dad' actually and I only really save those insults for the people who spout nonsensical bollocks or I believe have very little knowledge of the game. You are on that list though in case you are wondering ;)

[ferg_g]

Writing off AA at this stage is akin to writing off the new Dr based on his thirty second introduction.

[Bridgeman]

Hmmm, pleb, simple, nob, idiot, tool, tit and plank are normally my favourites. I suppose you need tough skin to take them though :rolleyes:

It's 'Finlay's Dad' actually and I only really save those insults for the people who spout nonsensical bollocks or I believe have very little knowledge of the game. You are on that list though in case you are wondering ;)

i think you may have hurt the wum's feelings. shame on you

[Finlay's Dad]

Writing off AA at this stage is akin to writing off the new Dr based on his thirty second introduction.

Haha. He does look a bit shit though doesn't he? :)

[btcclfc80]

I think one thing we learnt - twice tonight - he's got a head like a tripod.

[Eising agreed]

But it's always the same people starting the abuse. Finley's Dad, SwissLFC ... It's all they seem to do. Youngster ... you can add them to your ignore list if you like. Finley's dad for one neve comes up with anything other much other than insults.

Where's your avatar gone? Or are you not into the wrestling anymore?

[matt72033]

i never wrote him off. was just givinb my first impressions.

hopefully he'll prove me wrong

[matt72033]

thought he played well last night.

i think not having gerrard in the side is helping him, be it down to being over awed, desperate to impress, or just not being allowed to play his natural game i don't know. but he looks a lot better without gerrard on the pitch.

hope he can develop a good partnership when gerrard comes back

[konghøst]

thought he played well last night.

i think not having gerrard in the side is helping him, be it down to being over awed, desperate to impress, or just not being allowed to play his natural game i don't know. but he looks a lot better without gerrard on the pitch.

hope he can develop a good partnership when gerrard comes back

Or maybe he just have had a few games now and starting to learn the game here;)