John Terry: most hated?

[red4life86]

Just wondered if I'm in a group of one. I can't stand the man. From chasing down and screaming at ref's, being a dirty c**t off the ball and the fact he shouldn't be wearing the the England captain's armband when there's a much better leader availble.

He's just refused to shake some Andorran's hand and then clattered him when the ball was flighted in for a corner. Not that I care about Andorra or England to a great extent, but that's typical for him.

Who would be everyone's most hated player in the premiership if not Terry?

[RedRich]

A horrific combination of Rio Ferdinand and Gary Neville. Disgusting.

[red4life86]

A horrific combination of Rio Ferdinand and Gary Neville. Disgusting.

Rio Neville? That's enough to make John Merrick a looker :D

[ger_ryan22]

People talk about his passion and commitment on the pitch. Personally I think he's just a wanker.

[Slags17]

I cant say I respect him as a guy but hes one of the guys who really cares about his team and his club, so I cant say I hate him. He actually gives two shits when hes out there, you cant complain about him not going all out.

[Biscan the man]

Just wondered if I'm in a group of one. I can't stand the man. From chasing down and screaming at ref's, being a dirty c**t off the ball and the fact he shouldn't be wearing the the England captain's armband when there's a much better leader availble.



Who would that be? Rio or Lampard? Ashley Cole maybe?

[LFC vs PFC]

I've got to say I do respect the fact that he's paassionate about the team he plays for whether it be England or Chelsea. He also publically went on record and questionned the judgement of the England manager about why JC wasn't a regular choice as starting centreback for England as "he's been the best centreback in Europe for the past 3 years".
Dislike him for his beration of refs though

[kemlynreds]

Good player, great captain, twat of a man.

[thedanny]

Good player, great captain, twat of a man.

seconded.

best available england captain.

full on bellend though.

[red4life86]

Who would that be? Rio or Lampard? Ashley Cole maybe?

Steven Gerrard. Personally prefer a midfielder as a captain but one who can change the course of a game whilst being a leader of his team is better than a defender (good defender admittedly) in my opinion.

[thedanny]

Steven Gerrard. Personally prefer a midfielder as a captain but one who can change the course of a game whilst being a leader of his team is better than a defender (good defender admittedly) in my opinion.

totally disagree...

terry is a better captain for england than gerrard imo.

i also think it's better to have a defender, or someone who can see and read the whole game from the back as the captain.

[petelfconline]

To be honest you can say the same about Jamie...

Although not as bad as Terry he still has a go at the ref or makes it clear if he feels hard done by... but again thats because of his passion for the team so cant have a go at Terry for doing the same thing...

[red4life86]

totally disagree...

terry is a better captain for england than gerrard imo.

i also think it's better to have a defender, or someone who can see and read the whole game from the back as the captain.

I can understand that arguement. A lot was made of that when Shearer captained England.

As I said it's a personal preference, maybe it's because I dislike his attitude that it clouds my judgement, maybe I'm totally wrong. However I like the idea that a captain can influence the play in a positive manner and there's no one better in the England camp than Gerrard in my opinion. If you think about his reactions after scoring important goals and his attitude to rallying the troops I'd just like to see him doing that for England. It might even make me support them again.

And his reaction after losing the champions league in 2007, you could say it was more dignified than Terry's (although I don't slate him for booing). Obviously I'm not saying I prefer our captain because he's a better loser, but again, it's about the attitude.

[red4life86]

To be honest you can say the same about Jamie...

Although not as bad as Terry he still has a go at the ref or makes it clear if he feels hard done by... but again thats because of his passion for the team so cant have a go at Terry for doing the same thing...

I think he's no where near as bad as Terry. Jamie has a go at the ref sure, but he does it alone. Terry encourages an entourage to chase the ref down and hound him. They did that for game after game under Mourinho, Lampard the same. Carra doesn't blatantly smash people off the ball like that twat did to Torres last season.

[LIVERPOOL6]

joey barton?

[paulotrac]

Oooooooo ive just noticed that you can change fonts! Thats fantastic!

Id say Terry is one of my more disliked players. He is among Barton, Stephen Hunt, Gary Neville, Matterazi, Gattuso, Rio Ferdinand, Diouf, Drogba, Gerrard and Gallas.

[LIVERPOOL6]

why gerrard?

[thedanny]

why gerrard?

it's a long story, and a touchy subject.

i doubt paul wants to go into it...

[red4life86]

Oooooooo ive just noticed that you can change fonts! Thats fantastic!

Id say Terry is one of my more disliked players. He is among Barton, Stephen Hunt, Gary Neville, Matterazi, Gattuso, Rio Ferdinand, Diouf, Drogba, Gerrard and Gallas.

I forgot about him, is it too late to change the name of this thread? How fickle? :) He is a bastard though.

[paulotrac]

why gerrard?

Without wishing to start a huge debate, i just dont like him. He is one of my least favorite players. I dont like the fact he nearly left us two seasons on the run. If it had been to Real or Milan i could have understood that more, but Chelsea, im sorry but a supposed "boyhood" Liverpool fan and club captain shouldnt even entertain that idea. I dont like him as a person, he seems like a miserable bastard, a bit arrogant and I dont like the bad press that seems to follow him around. I know he doesnt write the storys himself, but you dont see stories printed like that about someone like Carragher, Scholes or Giggs, players who dont seem to embrace their celebrity persona. I dont like the way he holds England in such high regard. Im not blaming him for wanting to play for his country, I have no problem with that. But England shouldnt come before the club and I think that he has put England before the club a few times (although credit where its due, he has missed the two England qualifiers to get this op.

[paulotrac]

it's a long story, and a touchy subject.

i doubt paul wants to go into it...

Too late. :(

[donkeykongdazza]

Without wishing to start a huge debate, i just dont like him. He is one of my least favorite players. I dont like the fact he nearly left us two seasons on the run. If it had been to Real or Milan i could have understood that more, but Chelsea, im sorry but a supposed "boyhood" Liverpool fan and club captain shouldnt even entertain that idea. I dont like him as a person, he seems like a miserable bastard, a bit arrogant and I dont like the bad press that seems to follow him around. I know he doesnt write the storys himself, but you dont see stories printed like that about someone like Carragher, Scholes or Giggs, players who dont seem to embrace their celebrity persona. I dont like the way he holds England in such high regard. Im not blaming him for wanting to play for his country, I have no problem with that. But England shouldnt come before the club and I think that he has put England before the club a few times (although credit where its due, he has missed the two England qualifiers to get this op.

Without wishing to start a huge debate, that is mostly bollocks. If you just don't like someone then that's fine, but don't try and make out there's a host of proper reasons for it based on his conduct or what he's like "as a person". What stories about Gerrard have you seen that are worse than Carragher's Xmas Party antics at The Pen & Wig? Or Giggs punching his bird in the stomach in front of everyone at a nightclub? He also missed the 2002 World Cup (which would have been his first) to have an op that he delayed to finish the season for Liverpool. Do you dislike Kenny because he held Scotland in such high regard playing over 100 times? Many thought him to be a miserable bastard too. Do you dislike Rush because he actually DID leave the club?

It's fine not to like someone, but let's cut the bullshit, eh?

[scaton]

Without wishing to start a huge debate, i just dont like him. He is one of my least favorite players. I dont like the fact he nearly left us two seasons on the run. If it had been to Real or Milan i could have understood that more, but Chelsea, im sorry but a supposed "boyhood" Liverpool fan and club captain shouldnt even entertain that idea. I dont like him as a person, he seems like a miserable bastard, a bit arrogant and I dont like the bad press that seems to follow him around. I know he doesnt write the storys himself, but you dont see stories printed like that about someone like Carragher, Scholes or Giggs, players who dont seem to embrace their celebrity persona. I dont like the way he holds England in such high regard. Im not blaming him for wanting to play for his country, I have no problem with that. But England shouldnt come before the club and I think that he has put England before the club a few times (although credit where its due, he has missed the two England qualifiers to get this op.

What bad press?

[Urko23]

Without wishing to start a huge debate, i just dont like him. He is one of my least favorite players. I dont like the fact he nearly left us two seasons on the run. If it had been to Real or Milan i could have understood that more, but Chelsea, im sorry but a supposed "boyhood" Liverpool fan and club captain shouldnt even entertain that idea. I dont like him as a person, he seems like a miserable bastard, a bit arrogant and I dont like the bad press that seems to follow him around. I know he doesnt write the storys himself, but you dont see stories printed like that about someone like Carragher, Scholes or Giggs, players who dont seem to embrace their celebrity persona. I dont like the way he holds England in such high regard. Im not blaming him for wanting to play for his country, I have no problem with that. But England shouldnt come before the club and I think that he has put England before the club a few times (although credit where its due, he has missed the two England qualifiers to get this op.

Seconded. Don't like the lad. Great player, but he just comes across as a greedy sod on the pitch.

[LIVERPOOL6]

i have to admit i like Carra better as a person than Stevie but i certainly dont dislike him, i love the Neil and Song thing with Carra (it made me like him even more). but Stevie has always been my favourite player. Maybe he is a miserable bastard but if he keeps coming up with those late equalizers or winners,, and gets back on form i really couldn't give a shit.

on another note dont you just love EL NINO, i never thought Carra and Stevie would be budged as my favourites but now i have three.

[paulotrac]

Without wishing to start a huge debate, that is mostly bollocks. If you just don't like someone then that's fine, but don't try and make out there's a host of proper reasons for it based on his conduct or what he's like "as a person". What stories about Gerrard have you seen that are worse than Carragher's Xmas Party antics at The Pen & Wig? Or Giggs punching his bird in the stomach in front of everyone at a nightclub? He also missed the 2002 World Cup (which would have been his first) to have an op that he delayed to finish the season for Liverpool. Do you dislike Kenny because he held Scotland in such high regard playing over 100 times? Many thought him to be a miserable bastard too. Do you dislike Rush because he actually DID leave the club?

It's fine not to like someone, but let's cut the bullshit, eh?

Youve made some valid points to be fair and brought up some things I wasnt aware of. I cant comment on Dalglish or Rush, as I wasnt old enough at the time to remember.

I agree Carragher has had his moments as well, I havnt been too fussed by some of his comments in his book. How old was Carragher when the Pen and Wig stories came out? I dont actually remember those.

Whether you agree with my reasons for disliking him or not, I still think they are valid, well apart from the miserable one, I think thats probably a bit harsh. The main reason I dont like him is nearly going to Chelsea. The other things are just on top of that. As for the England before the club thing, thats somthing that I think is more recent, probably since he has become a key player for England.

[paulotrac]

i have to admit i like Carra better as a person than Stevie but i certainly dont dislike him, i love the Neil and Song thing with Carra (it made me like him even more). but Stevie has always been my favourite player. Maybe he is a miserable bastard but if he keeps coming up with those late equalizers or winners,, and gets back on form i really couldn't give a shit.

on another note dont you just love EL NINO, i never thought Carra and Stevie would be budged as my favourites but now i have three.

As a player I think he is brilliant. He has my full support on the pitch, as does every player in a red shirt. Its off it I dont like him.

[paulotrac]

What bad press?

Most recently the "gangster" stuff. I think a lot of it is down to that slut he's married to. I think she is pondlife to be honest.

[LIVERPOOL6]

how as it his fault being targeted by a physco/gangster?

you are talking about the 2001 thing arent you

[red4life86]

Most recently the "gangster" stuff. I think a lot of it is down to that slut he's married to. I think she is pondlife to be honest.

That does seem to be the image she has, locally at least. Doesn't she do a fashion column for some national mag though? Don't know her so I may be being unfair but I from what I've heard/read she would be in a terrible place now if it wasn't for Gerrard.

[scaton]

Other than being married to Steven Gerrard, and the stuff The Prince was talking about a few weeks back, I know nothing about her.

Are you sure you're not trying to build your own hatred here mate?

He didn't go to Chelsea.

[paulotrac]

how as it his fault being targeted by a physco/gangster?

you are talking about the 2001 thing arent you

Gerrard is mates with dodgey people (or at least was). Im not going off what Ive read in the press, im going off things ive heard from reliable sources who know him personally (i know that makes me sound like a massive cunt :D). Bad things come from the company he was keeping. I have some sympathy for him, as I think it got a bit out of hand, but if you dont hang round with these sorts of people, you probably wont end up in that situation. As i say, the slut he is married to doesnt seem to help matters.

[paulotrac]

Other than being married to Steven Gerrard, and the stuff The Prince was talking about a few weeks back, I know nothing about her.

Are you sure you're not trying to build your own hatred here mate?

He didn't go to Chelsea.

I dont hate him, i just dislike him. I know he didnt go to Chelsea, but the fact he nearly did is enough for me.

[LIVERPOOL6]

can someone post a link to the carra xmas thing i cant find it anywhere?

[paulotrac]

can someone post a link to the carra xmas thing i cant find it anywhere?

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,,849883,00.html

Ive found this. Doesnt go into detail, but it rings a bell.

[LIVERPOOL6]

i look at the chelsea thing a little different, at the time we were fair shit and chelsea were pretty good, he had the chance to play in a team with better players and therefore have more chance of trophies and he decided to stay because he loves LFC so much, i see it as loyalty. and dont say we wernt shit because Biscan, Traore, Baros, Pongolle, Le Tallec, speak for themselves. stevie will be glad he didn't leave now as champions league and FA cup medals are in his trophy room and soon to be a premier league medal

[LIVERPOOL6]

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,,849883,00.html

Ive found this. Doesnt go into detail, but it rings a bell.

thanks, so what did he actually do with the stripper, just have a snog and a feel around or did he get his dick wet, i cant see him dong a stripper on a restaurant able in front of the whole team

[paulotrac]

i look at the chelsea thing a little different, at the time we were fair shit and chelsea were pretty good, he had the chance to play in a team with better players and therefore have more chance of trophies and he decided to stay because he loves LFC so much, i see it as loyalty. and dont say we wernt shit because Biscan, Traore, Baros, Pongolle, Le Tallec, speak for themselves. stevie will be glad he didn't leave now as champions league and FA cup medals are in his trophy room and soon to be a premier league medal

Okay we were shit. No doubt. The fact that he wanted to leave was dissapointing, but the fact he wanted to go to Chelsea of all teams is worse. He would have to play against us at least twice a season. He would have to look for our results every week and hope we lose, as we would be one of their championship rivals. I dont see how he could do that. It wasnt like they were the only team in for him.

Had he wanted he could have gone to Real or Milan. As I said, I can understand a player leaving for another major foreign team (Henry to Barca, RVN to Real, Owen to Real), or even if the team they are leaving for are significantly better and they can offer European football (Rooney to United, Duff to Chelsea, SWP to Chelsea).

Also he wanted to leave the summer after we won the European Cup. If winning the biggest competition is club football isnt a sign of improvement I don't know what is.

[LIVERPOOL6]

Okay we were shit. No doubt. The fact that he wanted to leave was dissapointing, but the fact he wanted to go to Chelsea of all teams He would have to play against us at least twice a season. He would have to look for our results every week and hope we lose, as we would be one of their championship rivals. I dont see how he could do that. It wasnt like they were the only team in foris worse. him.

Had he wanted he could have gone to Real or Milan. As I said, I can understand a player leaving for another major foreign team (Henry to Barca, RVN to Real, Owen to Real), or even if the team they are leaving for are significantly better and they can offer European football (Rooney to United, Duff to Chelsea, SWP to Chelsea).

Also he wanted to leave the summer after we won the European Cup. If winning the biggest competition is club football isnt a sign of improvement I don't know what is.

neither could he thats why he stayed.

when did he say he wanted to leave after Istanbul?
link please

[paulotrac]

Heres one

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article3780052.ece

Gerrard almost joined Chelsea in June 2004 for £20m, and again 12 months later, for £32m, after the Anfield captain reacted to the interest by submitting a transfer request. He changed his mind only after his family received death threats and a fan burned his replica shirt live on Sky TV

[paulotrac]

and another

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4651003.stm

Anfield chief executive Rick Parry told BBC Sport that Chelsea had made a bid for Liverpool's 25-year-old captain, who has told the Reds he wants to quit.

[red4life86]

i look at the chelsea thing a little different, at the time we were fair shit and chelsea were pretty good, he had the chance to play in a team with better players and therefore have more chance of trophies and he decided to stay because he loves LFC so much, i see it as loyalty. and dont say we wernt shit because Biscan, Traore, Baros, Pongolle, Le Tallec, speak for themselves. stevie will be glad he didn't leave now as champions league and FA cup medals are in his trophy room and soon to be a premier league medal

The point where he looked most likely to leave (i.e. handed in a transfer request) was after we had won the European Cup. That was when the shirt burning took place. On the monday he handed in a transfer request on the tuesday he signed a new deal (if memory serves). I don't have a problem at all with Stevie, quite the opposite, I agree his decision to stay shows loyalty but you're painting a slightly rosier picture than what actually transpired.

[LIVERPOOL6]

well then, what can i say he's still here and i still like him

[paulotrac]

neither could he thats why he stayed.

when did he say he wanted to leave after Istanbul?
link please

Maybe, maybe not. But he had enough chances to sign a new contract throughout the 04-05 but he insisted on waiting until the end of the season. Then he handed a transfer request in and wanted to leave. So he must have had some intention of going. Great he changed his mind and im delighted he did. As for why he changed his mind, im still unsure, I think only he knows.

[paulotrac]

well then, what can i say he's still here and i still like him

Im certainly in a small minority of people who dont like Gerrard and im not saying there is a right and wrong in all this. Im over the Chelsea thing now, but it changed my opinion of him, that being said it never affected the support I gave him at the match, because I do beleive he gives 110% for the club and he is a great captain on the pitch. That is never in doubt.

[LIVERPOOL6]

thanks, so what did he actually do with the stripper, just have a snog and a feel around or did he get his dick wet, i cant see him dong a stripper on a restaurant able in front of the whole team

?

[nomad]

a lot of the transfer request stuff was down to lack of communication with parry. we only get to hear a few things about what was actually said and done, but it seems he got the impression the club weren't bothered about a new contract and was given bad advice to look at going elsewhere. since the kiss and makeup both the player and club admitted that. i don't hold that against him, its a learning exercise.

with regard bad press, surely you must hold similar contempt for robbie fowler too then? gerrard's bad publicity are centred around his bird and her behaviour, while robbie did create his own and it was a bit more serious than carra's stripper show.

[LIVERPOOL6]

please tell me about robbie

[redsam]

I don't think John Terry deserves the England captaincy.

The England captain needs to be a role model, not just a leader on the pitch, and he I don't believe that he is. I recall an incident earlier in his career where he abused a nightclub assistant that refused to serve him more drink, by asking her how much she earned and boasting how much he got at Chelsea.

This is also a guy who's repeatedly cheated on his partner, before and whilst she was pregnant.

Personally, I also feel that a captain should be someone who can influence the team play and change a game. Yes a defender can read the game but how much can he change it? A midfielder would probably be in a better position to change the game. I personally feel Gerrard should have been given the England captaincy, and not just because he's a Liverpool player.

[paulotrac]

I don't think John Terry deserves the England captaincy.

The England captain needs to be a role model, not just a leader on the pitch, and he I don't believe that he is. I recall an incident earlier in his career where he abused a nightclub assistant that refused to serve him more drink, by asking her how much she earned and boasting how much he got at Chelsea.

This is also a guy who's repeatedly cheated on his partner, before and whilst she was pregnant.

Personally, I also feel that a captain should be someone who can influence the team play and change a game. Yes a defender can read the game but how much can he change it? A midfielder would probably be in a better position to change the game. I personally feel Gerrard should have been given the England captaincy, and not just because he's a Liverpool player.

I think Ferdinand would make a better captain than Terry.

[DeanoLFC]

Rio Ferdinand is the player i hate most. Id have Terry over Ferdinand.

[redsam]

I think Ferdinand would make a better captain than Terry.

If it was a straight choice between the 2 then i'd go for Ferdinand too

But this is a guy who "forgot" to take his drug test and got an extended ban from the game

Doesn't set a good example either!

[LFC vs PFC]

What about bringing Barton back for his second cap and give him the armband? At least he's passionate ;)

[red robbie]

Rio Neville? That's enough to make John Merrick a looker :D

Carlos Rooney! Now that would be scary! Go down a treat on the Ghost Train rides! Poor fuckin kids!:p

[big dutch]

i am indifferent about john terry
in fact i am indifferent about all things chelsea

compared to neville, rooney etc, terry is just a irritation

[nickJFT96]

John Terry ruined my summer.

Besides that, I couldnt care more or less about him than I do about 90% of footballers.

[donkeykongdazza]

Heres one

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article3780052.ece

Gerrard almost joined Chelsea in June 2004 for £20m, and again 12 months later, for £32m, after the Anfield captain reacted to the interest by submitting a transfer request. He changed his mind only after his family received death threats and a fan burned his replica shirt live on Sky TV

Yes. That's what did it. Some fucking idiot desperate to get on the telly sets fire to his shirt and forever changes the course of history. If we win the league this year it'll be all thanks to that mystery man persuading our captain to stay. We should erect a statue in his honour to stand alongside Shankly's.

[paulotrac]

Yes. That's what did it. Some fucking idiot desperate to get on the telly sets fire to his shirt and forever changes the course of history. If we win the league this year it'll be all thanks to that mystery man persuading our captain to stay. We should erect a statue in his honour to stand alongside Shankly's.

:D

I dont think for a second that fan had any real baring on his decision, its was just a quote from a newspaper. I do think that the death threats may have had somthing to do with it and I do also think that Gerrard wanted to stay with the club to win things.

[donkeykongdazza]

Should have made it a bit clearer I was taking the piss out of the quote - not having a pop at you Paulotrac.

Does anyone know who that guy was and what he thinks of his little display since? I'd love to know if he feels a twat for doing it, or revels in it ("Wha d'ya mean yer don't know who I am? I'm that fella off the telly that made Gerrard stay in Liverpool - can I have a free pint? How about some free crisps then?").

[paulotrac]

Should have made it a bit clearer I was taking the piss out of the quote - not having a pop at you Paulotrac.

Does anyone know who that guy was and what he thinks of his little display since? I'd love to know if he feels a twat for doing it, or revels in it ("Wha d'ya mean yer don't know who I am? I'm that fella off the telly that made Gerrard stay in Liverpool - can I have a free pint? How about some free crisps then?").

Oh sorry mate, my mistake. :o

I can only vaguely remember the shirt burning to be honest. It was his number 17 shirt wasnt it?! Pretty pointless act to be honest. I seem to remember Gerrard making some reference to it in that "Year in the Life of Steven Gerrard" program on sky one before the world cup, but cant remember what he said about it. Either way it was over the top, as were the threats made to him. Its one thing to not want a player to leave the club and be pissed off, but threats like that are completely out of line.

[Urko23]

"Year in the Life of Steven Gerrard" program on sky one

Another reason, him and that wife of his embrace the celebrity life far too much. Well, she atleast.

[redrule]

Without wishing to start a huge debate, i just dont like him. He is one of my least favorite players. I dont like the fact he nearly left us two seasons on the run. If it had been to Real or Milan i could have understood that more, but Chelsea, im sorry but a supposed "boyhood" Liverpool fan and club captain shouldnt even entertain that idea. I dont like him as a person, he seems like a miserable bastard, a bit arrogant and I dont like the bad press that seems to follow him around. I know he doesnt write the storys himself, but you dont see stories printed like that about someone like Carragher, Scholes or Giggs, players who dont seem to embrace their celebrity persona. I dont like the way he holds England in such high regard. Im not blaming him for wanting to play for his country, I have no problem with that. But England shouldnt come before the club and I think that he has put England before the club a few times (although credit where its due, he has missed the two England qualifiers to get this op.

Gerrard is miles above Terry when it comes to class and style.

Look at the difference how they handle themselfs in winning and defeat.
Terry looks like he cant be fast enough to find the managers shoulder to cry on in defeat, and a dosser and a dwad when they win.

Ok maybe my opinion is just built on that I dont like terry, but as I see it Terry is more a prolonging of the english national sides that dont get anywhere beacuse they are world champions before the tournaments even started.

I think Gerrard more represent an English Captain that has a good understanding of the game and will know what players that are going to be diciplined and comited to win, and who is going to be more concerned of their celebrity status andbring the team down.

[red4life86]

If it was a straight choice between the 2 then i'd go for Ferdinand too

But this is a guy who "forgot" to take his drug test and got an extended ban from the game

Doesn't set a good example either!

Apparently, quite a few of the scum don't like him because of the protracted contract negotiations a few years back. I would have liked us to have signed him from leeds but that was a time when united weren't buying buying the league of course - just spending 28m on a defender and 20m on a striker. :rolleyes:

[Patster]

Can't stand either Terry or Rio, what a choice. One who allegedly cheated on his pregnant girlfriend (as someone mentioned previously) by getting caught in his Bentley with a 17 yr old giving him a BJ (amoungst other occasions), drunkenly abusing American tourists at a hotel in Heathrow on the evening of 9/11 and being openly racist to an ex-teammate in a high profile game versus someone who 'forgot' to go to his drug test, sat out for 8 months whilst getting paid a huge amount of money during this 'rest' & then demanded a huge payrise not long after coming back. Bobby Moore would be spinning in his grave if these two clowns are the top choices!

[red4life86]

Another example of what a twat he is. The elbow in Reina's face. When are the FA going to do something about this cunt.

Or does the fact that he's the England captain mean that he's untouchable?

[redrule]

Another example of what a twat he is. The elbow in Reina's face. When are the FA going to do something about this cunt.

Or does the fact that he's the England captain mean that he's untouchable?

Good shout, good to see the Liverpool players stand up for Pepe !

[paulotrac]

Xabi loves a scrap with a Chelsea player doesnt he!

[red4life86]

Xabi loves a scrap with a Chelsea player doesnt he!

I thought what was particullarly funny was the fact that Terry was being pushed away by Reina and a couple of others and when he finally retaliated and said "get the fuck off", he swung his elbow back round and it hit Carvalho as he was trying to get him away. Stupid fucking cunt.

(I have a problem with Terry but I try to hide it)

[The Prince]

Alex Curran is a slut now, is she? Fuck's sake. You don't know her.

I can't believe no one's mentioned a Scouser playing for a Manc team who once wrote for The Sun.