Andy Murray beats Federer

[NeverOffside]

Not really a tennis fan myself but I quite like Andy Murray's attitude.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7272856.stm

He's a pretty layed back guy so it's nice to see him beat the world number 1.

interesting snippet from the article "After the match, Murray also mentioned the effects of a new aspect to his training regime - Bikram yoga." :confused:

[redforever]

i have watched Andy Murrays progress from the start and he is going to win a major no doubt. The only thing stopping imo is his body as it has struggled to cope with the demands of the game but talent wise he has it all. It is a shame that he had to come out with the comments about England at Wimbledon as i see this as stopping him receiving the support the likes of which 'Tiger' got.
I can see him winning the U.S open this year.

[Psychoticmonkey]

I don't understand tennis fans. What do you do, pick your favourite and support them until they retire? Or just support whoever's from your own country?

Same for F1, or boxing. I just don't get it.

[redforever]

I don't understand tennis fans. What do you do, pick your favourite and support them until they retire? Or just support whoever's from your own country?

Same for F1, or boxing. I just don't get it.

why is that hard to understand? do you swap and change your support depending on who is winning? does this apply to footy?

[Evs]

I don't understand tennis fans. What do you do, pick your favourite and support them until they retire? Or just support whoever's from your own country?

Same for F1, or boxing. I just don't get it.

I'm not a tennis fan per se, the only players i've made a point of watching and following their careers have been John McEnroe and Agassi.

I just liked the way they played.

[Psychoticmonkey]

why is that hard to understand? do you swap and change your support depending on who is winning? does this apply to footy?

With football you know (more or less) that you can follow the same team for your whole lifetime. There's a sense of being part of it, part of a greater movement. It just seems strange to be picking a completely new individual to support whenever one retires.

[redforever]

With football you know (more or less) that you can follow the same team for your whole lifetime. There's a sense of being part of it, part of a greater movement. It just seems strange to be picking a completely new individual to support whenever one retires.

ah that makes it clear. Well i likes evs was a huge McEnroe fan in my youth and although i have wanted Henman and now Murray to do well no one will ever replace JP Mac so i am not sure that your 100% correct although i see where your coming from

[matt72033]

scottish twat!

hope he fucks off n breaks his wrist or summink

[NeverOffside]

scottish twat!

hope he fucks off n breaks his wrist or summink

and on that note. :)

[Taksin]

With football you know (more or less) that you can follow the same team for your whole lifetime. There's a sense of being part of it, part of a greater movement. It just seems strange to be picking a completely new individual to support whenever one retires.

Try playing it - then watch in awe..

They are different though.. I was trying to formulate the diffences between different games recently. I can't remember where I ended up.. Something like.

football is a metaphor for battle / warfare

tennis is a metaphor for relationship / sybling rivalry

golf is a metaphor for life / destiny

[Evs]

Golf is you against yourself.

[Taksin]

Golf is you against yourself.

exactly.. you and your decisions + ability against the terrain (life)

[matt72033]

and on that note. :)

he is....and i'm sure he wouldn't want it any other way! after his comments then he's not getting any support from direction!

also he's a boring, monotone, un-enthusiastic, characterless, un-interesting cunt with a piss poor attitude!

but hey! he's making an absolute fortune and i aint :)

[NeverOffside]

he is....and i'm sure he wouldn't want it any other way! after his comments then he's not getting any support from direction!

also he's a boring, monotone, un-enthusiastic, characterless, un-interesting cunt with a piss poor attitude!

but hey! he's making an absolute fortune and i aint :)

hang on, what exactly has he said about the English? He's Scottish so I can imagine, but for the record what did he say?

[matt72033]

during the world cup made some comment about supporting paraguy over england in our game and in fact anyone over england in the whole tournament

[NeverOffside]

during the world cup made some comment about supporting paraguy over england in our game and in fact anyone over england in the whole tournament

only to be expected surely. :confused:

[Taksin]

he is....and i'm sure he wouldn't want it any other way! after his comments then he's not getting any support from direction!

also he's a boring, monotone, un-enthusiastic, characterless, un-interesting cunt with a piss poor attitude!

but hey! he's making an absolute fortune and i aint :)

This probably says more about you than it does him!

I first heard him talking on the radio and was so impressed by what he had to say I waited to find out who it was.. I was flabberghasted to hear it was an 18 year old kid. He's precocious, extremely talented and very enthusiastic, with an attitude that will make him the rarest of things - a British champion

[vin]

He won't be a British champion! Like many others before him, he just had his day!!!!

[redforever]

He won't be a British champion! Like many others before him, he just had his day!!!!

i think you will find yourself eating those words Vin my friend as he is going to be a champion that i have no doubt.
Like Matt R i did not like his comments about England during the World cup not because he is scottish or because the comments were anything other than most scots would say, but because he was quite happy to take the adulation of the Brits at Wimbledon and then slap them across the face with his outburst, smacked of hypocrisy from where i was standing but i have forgiven him and wish him well. As for him being a boring, blah blah he is a tennis player and when he does that he is not boring and after all that is all i'm interested in watching.

[vin]

i think you will find yourself eating those words Vin my friend as he is going to be a champion that i have no doubt.
Like Matt R i did not like his comments about England during the World cup not because he is scottish or because the comments were anything other than most scots would say, but because he was quite happy to take the adulation of the Brits at Wimbledon and then slap them across the face with his outburst, smacked of hypocrisy from where i was standing but i have forgiven him and wish him well. As for him being a boring, blah blah he is a tennis player and when he does that he is not boring and after all that is all i'm interested in watching.

I doubt it!

[Taksin]

I doubt it!

why?

Is it because his body is frail? because that's all that I can see stopping him..

[redforever]

why?

Is it because his bady is frail? because that's all that I can see stopping him..

i think his conditioning is improving all the time though which is why i see him becoming a grand slam winner. Luckily he learned his trade in Barcelona as if he had of stayed on these shores then he would not win a thing. I like him and apart from the World cup comments he seems a really down to earth unpretentious kind of guy to be honest

[Taksin]

i think his conditioning is improving all the time though which is why i see him becoming a grand slam winner. Luckily he learned his trade in Barcelona as if he had of stayed on these shores then he would not win a thing. I like him and apart from the World cup comments he seems a really down to earth unpretentious kind of guy to be honest

That's pretty much how I see it but, having a Scottish father, I am quite familiar with his views on English football and don't really see what's wrong with them..

[redforever]

That's pretty much how I see it but, having a Scottish father, I am quite familiar with his views on English football and don't really see what's wrong with them..

I agree mate and i have no problem with his comments, i have a problem or had a problem with him living upto the BBC and how they were portraying him as 'Our big hope' and having the hill named after him et, basically accepting the adulation adorned on him by the country despite him being Scottish, i have not put this very well and im well over it now but at the time i thought it was a little hypocritical taking all the adulation from the English and then coming out with that. For a teenager though i think he has his head well and truly screwed on and his mum is pretty fit too, i would you know :eek::D;)
i bet you would too

[Taksin]

I agree mate and i have no problem with his comments, i have a problem or had a problem with him living upto the BBC and how they were portraying him as 'Our big hope' and having the hill named after him et, basically accepting the adulation adorned on him by the country despite him being Scottish, i have not put this very well and im well over it now but at the time i thought it was a little hypocritical taking all the adulation from the English and then coming out with that. For a teenager though i think he has his head well and truly screwed on and his mum is pretty fit too, i would you know :eek::D;)
i bet you would too

Interestingly he says Flushing Meadow is his favourite tournament - far and above over Wimbledon.. I get the impression he's not that fussed by the adoration..

oh, and keep me out of your sex fantasies please (I have enough problems with my own)..

[redforever]

Interestingly he says Flushing Meadow is his favourite tournament - far and above over Wimbledon.. I get the impression he's not that fussed by the adoration..

oh, and keep me out of your sex fantasies please (I have enough problems with my own)..

spoil sport :*(
if you want to describe yours i may be able to help :D

[matt72033]

only to be expected surely. :confused:

yea....so why should i/we be offering him any support?

i'd rather anyone wone over him!

and he's still a cock! hate him, not for his comments, couldnt give a shit about them, i just think he's a knob!

[Highland D]

yea....so why should i/we be offering him any support?

i'd rather anyone wone over him!

and he's still a cock! hate him, not for his comments, couldnt give a shit about them, i just think he's a knob!

I agree with you he's a cock but it seems just cos he didn't support england in the world cup you've got a chip on yer shoulder?

Do you follow say Argentina or Germany?



ps it's his mum thats a bint,blame the parents:D

[Matt R]

i think you will find yourself eating those words Vin my friend as he is going to be a champion that i have no doubt.
Like Matt R i did not like his comments about England during the World cup not because he is scottish or because the comments were anything other than most scots would say, but because he was quite happy to take the adulation of the Brits at Wimbledon and then slap them across the face with his outburst, smacked of hypocrisy from where i was standing but i have forgiven him and wish him well. As for him being a boring, blah blah he is a tennis player and when he does that he is not boring and after all that is all i'm interested in watching.

Eh? I couldn't give a fuck about his comments on the England team. I laughed me cock off when they got beat.

[matchoftheday]

He's a cock. Without a shadow of doubt.

Just fucked up my betfair accumulator aswell, Federer is typically easy money.

Murray is a smug little shit, who needs to fuck off away from Tennis, he isn't good for that sport nor any other.

[NeverOffside]

I'm quite surprised by the strength of opinion on some of these posts. Fine, i can see how you couldn't care less, and even how you dislike the guy's personality, but not sure how he warrants hatred.

What he said about watching England is par for the course for most Scots. Even Hansen, Dalglish et al don't give a shit about the England football team. I imagine they too would cheer on the opposition same as I do every time Man U play.

The fact he beat the World Number 1, who to my eyes has absolutely no charisma at all, is great for the sport. Nobody likes people who win all the time unless they have a vested interest.

He has a bit of a 'fuck you' attitude but that gives him some spirit and fight. Who wants a dull as fuck Henman type gutless wimp?

[CODE RED]

He's a talented tennis player but very inconsistent. I myself can't understand the strength of opinion on this matter like N.O.. England is where we live but not the centre of the known Universe.

Federer is a legend no matter what, but he isn't going to win every game. I can see Murray winning one of the majors one day and being a top 5 player. However, I can't see him being consistently at the top like Federer. He doesn't have his professionalism.

[matt72033]

I agree with you he's a cock but it seems just cos he didn't support england in the world cup you've got a chip on yer shoulder?

Do you follow say Argentina or Germany?



ps it's his mum thats a bint,blame the parents:D

no it doesnt bother me at all....it just pisses me off the way every fucking english woman will be wanking over him come wimbledon, murray fucking mound my arse :rolleyes:, after he's made it perfectly clear how he feels about us english!

maybe i'm more pissed of with the retardedness of half our country!

[Highland D]

no it doesnt bother me at all....it just pisses me off the way every fucking english woman will be wanking over him come wimbledon, murray fucking mound my arse :rolleyes:, after he's made it perfectly clear how he feels about us english!

maybe i'm more pissed of with the retardedness of half our country!

bring back Jeremy Bates:D

[redforever]

I agree with you he's a cock but it seems just cos he didn't support england in the world cup you've got a chip on yer shoulder?

Do you follow say Argentina or Germany?



ps it's his mum thats a bint,blame the parents:D

no way his mum is fit in a middle age sort of way you know like you'd do Pauline Quirk :D

[redforever]

bring back Jeremy Bates:D

he certainly is the MASTER :D