Big Brother 8

[red raw]

Are you ready for cheap tv, tacky presenting and poor ideas?

Then you are ready for Big Brother!

Want to see a lapdancer and a WI member in the same house?

How about a former illegal immigrant and a BNP member?

or a Sex mad flamboyant gay and a shy closet poof?

Yes it's wife-swap tacky.

Take 2 complete opposites and film them in a prison for 12 weeks, then take away the food and beds to "Really spice it up"... etc etc

Same old crap, same old plots, same old mismatches of society...

















I'll still end up watching it! :p :D

[kemlynreds]

More talentless media whores who think that world needs their exposure, another summer written off.

[Rafatolah]

I watch it every night, no use denying that fact. It can be very interesting viewing.

More sex and fights please this year

[red raw]

I watch it every night, no use denying that fact. It can be very interesting viewing.

More sex and fights please this year

I saw the American Big Brother one season and they did it very differently.

1) The housemates compete to become head of the house, there's no voting by the public, it's all down to those in the house. They have great games or sports to play where the sex/stamina of the house-mates is levelled out... the winner gets 1 week as the head of the house.

2) The Head of the house gets all the treatment, Jaccuzzi, huge bed, food & drink whenever... and it's up to the other housemates to get on their good side. You see so much sucking up and then the same people slag them off behind their backs, it's great to watch.

3) The head then chooses who gets evicted but it's cleverer than you think... Because you know that someone is your rival but you also know that if you evict him/her, her friend might do the same to you next week so there's loads of tactics, backstabbing, switching of alliances and competition.

It amazes me how much better their version is and how ours could do well to copy it.

Also the people in the house didn't need to be overbearingly different to be interesting... about 5 of the girls were equally hot, which made it better because the guys were competing for them depending on which one was in charge at the time.

There was a fight once!

Also the "Twist" was that some of the housmates were Ex's to the others... but they brought them in 1 day later... so if the people in the house already bullshitted, their Ex's could cut them down and make them look like twats. :D

Pity ours is as basic as "Lets put a satan worshipper in with a priest" :rolleyes: typical

[Mozzaretti]

Personally i can't wait, I will be basing my life around it for the next couple of months. I mean what else there to do in the summer
























Feckin shite the lot of it - Thank feck for QVC which is marginally more interesting - Big Brother - gang of cnuts more like

[AshyP]

Personally i can't wait, I will be basing my life around it for the next couple of months. I mean what else there to do in the summer

Feckin shite the lot of it - Thank feck for QVC which is marginally more interesting - Big Brother - gang of cnuts more like

And people have the nerve to have a dig at me for watching Friends ;)

[red raw]

And people have the nerve to have a dig at me for watching Friends ;)

I watch it too, just liked to watch you burn ;)

Heck I like Friends, Scrubs, Lost, 24, Big Bro, the Daily Show, Colbert Report and I can even watch America's next top model... hell I have a wife and a happy marriage, no harm in the odd 30 mins of trash tv every now and then when compared to the 9 hours of football a week :p ;)

[AshyP]

I watch it too, just liked to watch you burn ;)

Heck I like Friends, Scrubs, Lost, 24, Big Bro, the Daily Show, Colbert Report and I can even watch America's next top model... hell I have a wife and a happy marriage, no harm in the odd 30 mins of trash tv every now and then when compared to the 9 hours of football a week :p ;)

Scrubs - check
Lost - bobbins
Big Bro - Im too busy pulling my finger nails off
Americas next top model :eek: When the wife puts that on, thats my cue to read a book

[Mozzaretti]

Scrubs - check
Lost - bobbins
Big Bro - Im too busy pulling my finger nails off
Americas next top model :eek: When the wife puts that on, thats my cue to read a book

I'd have thought your Friends Companion would have been worn out by now Ash ;)

[AshyP]

I'd have thought your Friends Companion would have been worn out by now Ash ;)

You see, thats the kind of dig i am talking about. I have feelings you know
















I had to get another one as the first one got worn out:o

You have a PM mate.

[ohdear]

I missed the first few weeks last year because of the world cup,but I did end up watching it and have to admit I enjoyed it,it's a bit of a guilty pleasure.

When everyone is arguing though it tends to piss me off,I prefer it when something funny happens or they all get shitfaced.Wanted to poke Aisleyne in the whiskers too but you don't need to know that.

[liverpool lad]

I think there is nothing as depressing as a bunch of people sitting round in a house watching a bunch of people sitting round in a house. You can feel your intelligence level drop as you watch it.

Not for me I will defo be swerving BB

[Psychoticmonkey]

Whenever I watch Big Brother I die a little inside.

[RED CORNER]

Whenever I watch Big Brother I die a little inside.


Wasn't that a Shakin' Stevens song?

[AnfieldAura]

Yeah, rumours are that the first 11 housemates are women.

[ohdear]

11 Women left alone sounds great,like they will all just get bored and start oiling each other up and then it will be lesbo inferno time.

We all know that it will be like watching loose women in the end though,harping on about fuck all and complimenting each others dress sense.

[Seth7724]

Kieran Richardson's cousin "Charlie Richardson" is reportdly going in....

Random?

[liverpool lad]

Kieran Richardson's cousin "Charlie Richardson" is reportdly going in....

Random?

I thought Charlie Richardson was a London Gangster?

[ohdear]

Well so far they are a shower of bastards,all ladies though.I'm having impure thoughts.

[Taksin]

Whenever I watch Big Brother I die a little inside.

but oh, how we love to kill ourselves!

[RedRich]

"IT's all PINK!"










I bet. :cool:

[RedRich]

Not that I'm watching it of course. :eek:

Edit: Seriously, just had to physically take control of the remote. Any more of that utter horsecock and throwing Pringles at the screen wouldn't have been enough :mad:

It was making my teeth itch and it's only just started. Gonna be arguments in my house this summer :mad:

[ohdear]

I am in no way a violent man,but if I spent two weeks in that house I would get incredibly drunk had hit someone with a fridge or something.

Looking like the all girl bit might be true though,might watch it for a bit longer.

[ohdear]

Dawn French is in too,thats a turn up.

Ahem.

[vin]

"IT's all PINK!"

I bet. :cool:

LOL! Bastards - made me change channel to watch it - as I did - the girl said "I love cigarettes and electro music"

Well you have to keep yourself busy!

[Mel Wood]

Some 'ahem' interesting characters there probably and already about six that would wreck my head in about two seconds flat. Usually the first show's a parade of rodentia but seems so far they've largely just gone for the annoying bimbo squad with token shy hefty one. Should get nastier when they filter in the blokes in the form of chav gobshites, panto-villain self-made businessmen and nice-but-dim public-school types.

My only other thoughts are that Tracey looks like Robert De Niro in a pink wig and Carol reminds me vaguely of an angry Aunty Flo off of 'Bod'. Prefer them so far.

Not that I watch it though. It was just on, like.

[redforever]

Some 'ahem' interesting characters there probably and already about six that would wreck my head in about two seconds flat. Usually the first show's a parade of rodentia but seems so far they've largely just gone for the annoying bimbo squad with token shy hefty one. Should get nastier when they filter in the blokes in the form of chav gobshites, panto-villain self-made businessmen and nice-but-dim public-school types.

My only other thoughts are that Tracey looks like Robert De Niro in a pink wig and Carol reminds me vaguely of an angry Aunty Flo off of 'Bod'. Prefer them so far.

Not that I watch it though. It was just on, like.

lol on inspection i agree
does anyone else think the 'hefty' Welsh girl looks like a 'big' Stacey Slater of Eastenders? not that i watch eastenders like.
These are defo going to drive me mad. The Asian girl with the gorgeous eyes is my fav so far.:)

[vin]

lol on inspection i agree
does anyone else think the 'hefty' Welsh girl looks like a 'big' Stacey Slater of Eastenders? not that i watch eastenders like.
These are defo going to drive me mad. The Asian girl with the gorgeous eyes is my fav so far.:)

you've gone as far as having a favourite!!!!!

[redforever]

you've gone as far as having a favourite!!!!!

yeah to F**K

[REDMATT]

on second thoughts.

[Psychoticmonkey]

How old are those twins? 18?

How the hell have they gone that long without someone SHOOTING THEM?

[red raw]

Well what a complete let down.

The first big brother was interesting. You took people out of society and put them on display. It was good to see real human nature taking place, like a Nature-Programme but with People.

Now, like Wife-swap, it just seems to be a show to test the mental strength of people in an uncomfortable environment... purely a show for Shrinks to enjoy but nothing at all in terms of substance or entertainment.

Seriously, I don't know if the format lasted only 1 season but the American version is soooooo much better it's unbelievable that we haven't used that format.

Especially as Endemol apparently don't make profits from the phone calls this time, you might as well have scrapped the whole public-vote thing completely.

The head of house version provides fights, affairs, back-stabbing, bitching, competition, nudity and plenty of entertainment. The public could still have voted for which game they have to play in order to win HoH status... that way you caould vote for the game you think your favourite person would be good at... and it would get rid of this Panto-Booing.

Also with the American format the housemates have Zero contact with the outside world, so they don't know if they are popular or not, whether they will be Booed or Cheered as they leave... it makes for a much more exciting few weeks that this bunch of women will provide.

Who wants to watch a load of chain-smokers talk about hair dye and make-up? They had Wag's Boutique already...

On Friday they will "Mix it up" by throwing in a Man. 90% Certain it will be either a Geek, A Former Monk or a Flamboyant Homosexual. :o

I could go without this trash TV.

[red raw]

Oh, and Charlie Richardson???

Surely being related to a rich-famous person is an advantage if it comes to phone-voting...

... and "Cousin of Keiron Richardson" makes her more famous than half of the "Celebrity" Big Brother Contestants

poor poor poor tv

[simon pieman]

Its all bollox, yet another cheap shout at us males by having a house full of women, some of which have openly stated thet hate males.Still will watch cos the missus likes it :p

[vin]

why you getting so worked up about it, I don't like it, I avoid it - apart from 20 minutes yesterday. There are far better things to get passionate about!

[Taksin]

I was fascinated that someone in the post modern west would model herself on Victoria Beckham so earnestly..

[themaninred]

How old are those twins? 18?

How the hell have they gone that long without someone SHOOTING THEM?

Knowing BB's previous form, I'm surprised they're not siamese twins!

;)

[CODE RED]

Some 'ahem' interesting characters there probably and already about six that would wreck my head in about two seconds flat. Usually the first show's a parade of rodentia but seems so far they've largely just gone for the annoying bimbo squad with token shy hefty one. Should get nastier when they filter in the blokes in the form of chav gobshites, panto-villain self-made businessmen and nice-but-dim public-school types.

My only other thoughts are that Tracey looks like Robert De Niro in a pink wig and Carol reminds me vaguely of an angry Aunty Flo off of 'Bod'. Prefer them so far.

Not that I watch it though. It was just on, like.

LOL

[Ducatiboy749]

Was on the Central Line yesterday and there were two young, orange Essex types talking about BB and one turns to the other and says...

"yeeaahh I down't mynd that Lawra....she's abaaat the only fat person I liiiyke":eek:

Kids today eh!:rolleyes:

[CODE RED]

Eh? Thick or what?

[Ducatiboy749]

Eh? Thick or what?

I believe the correct term these days is remedial......;)

[CODE RED]

I was trying to speak in a vocab that they would use. ;)

[red robbie]

Its a programme for girls:rolleyes:

[vin]

How old are those twins? 18?

How the hell have they gone that long without someone SHOOTING THEM?

Maybe that will be one of the tasks!

[red raw]

well it seems that Ziggy has the "Head of House" position... borrowed from the Americans... Hopefully this format will stick because there will be so much back stabbing and sucking up involved.

It's moved from 1 out of 10 to 2 out of 10! (the 1 was for hot twin candy!) :D

[Plughead]

I think it is important that people take a stand against a social cancer like this, so I applaud whoever attacks it. Disgusting televisual vomit for the braindead generation.


PS - I appreciate that some people who watch it aren't braindead (some on this thread, for example)

[NeverOffside]

Christ, not commented on this thread, but it's already 4 pages!!

Big Brother is SHITE people. Don't watch it. I've not seen a single second of this series, and I will not be sucked in. It's SHITE. Instead of watching this SHITE go out and do something constructive, go and meet real people. Don't get sucked in. It's the DEVIL'S WORK I tell you. Those wankers at endemol are lining their pockets with the money gleaned from you saps. Don't watch, don't vote, don't DIE!!!!!!


:)

[Rafatolah]

Take it for what it is...........
Social rejects that think they are different and make complete tits out of themselves and earn zero money afterwards. I'll watch it cos I don't take it seriously. If it annoys me I turn it off.............simple really.

[red raw]

Christ, not commented on this thread, but it's already 4 pages!!

Big Brother is SHITE people. Don't watch it. I've not seen a single second of this series, and I will not be sucked in. It's SHITE. Instead of watching this SHITE go out and do something constructive, go and meet real people. Don't get sucked in. It's the DEVIL'S WORK I tell you. Those wankers at endemol are lining their pockets with the money gleaned from you saps. Don't watch, don't vote, don't DIE!!!!!!


:)

Jeezus, 10 mins a day

[Thommo]

Emily's been booted out for using racist language.

Man, I'm gonna miss that arse!

[red raw]

Just heard this on t'radio

She was dancing around with Charlie and said "Are you pushing it out, you N**ger?"

Stupid girl, on a TV programme!

Honestly the ignorance by some people these days. She probably thought it was cool because Snoogy Doogy says it! :p

[paulotrac]

Fo shizzle my nizzle

[Thommo]

Just heard this on t'radio

She was dancing around with Charlie and said "Are you pushing it out, you N**ger?"

Stupid girl, on a TV programme!

Honestly the ignorance by some people these days. She probably thought it was cool because Snoogy Doogy says it! :p

I wonder what would've been done had that come out of Charly's mouth though? Would C4 make out it's OK for her to say exactly the same thing? I hope not...

[user name]

Christ, not commented on this thread, but it's already 4 pages!!

Big Brother is SHITE people. Don't watch it. I've not seen a single second of this series, and I will not be sucked in. It's SHITE. Instead of watching this SHITE go out and do something constructive, go and meet real people. Don't get sucked in. It's the DEVIL'S WORK I tell you. Those wankers at endemol are lining their pockets with the money gleaned from you saps. Don't watch, don't vote, don't DIE!!!!!!


:)


are you trying to bring back Why Don't You? ;)

i realised big brother was wasting my time when sat in bed with my partner at 2am and we couldn't get to sleep, watching someone on the telly sat in bed who couldn't get to sleep...:eek:

[kemlynreds]

Christ, not commented on this thread, but it's already 4 pages!!

Big Brother is SHITE people. Don't watch it. I've not seen a single second of this series, and I will not be sucked in. It's SHITE. Instead of watching this SHITE go out and do something constructive, go and meet real people. Don't get sucked in. It's the DEVIL'S WORK I tell you. Those wankers at endemol are lining their pockets with the money gleaned from you saps. Don't watch, don't vote, don't DIE!!!!!!


:)

They knocked you back at audition as well did they?

[vin]

They knocked you back at audition as well did they?

yeah, he probably wasn't dumb enough

[BigJCofBootle]

Normally I fall victim to it every year, but this year I can't be bothered. I watched it the first night when they went in and when I saw there was no fellas, let alone no FIT fellas, my interest immediately waned. Ain't watched any of it since because of exams and lack of time....but now that the exams are over, I bet I'll end up obsessed. :o

Why can't I resist it for one year!??

[The Prince]

I think you've just answered your own question.

[BigJCofBootle]

I think you've just answered your own question.

I can't find the answer!!

[user name]

Normally I fall victim to it every year, but this year I can't be bothered. I watched it the first night when they went in and when I saw there was no fellas, let alone no FIT fellas, my interest immediately waned. Ain't watched any of it since because of exams and lack of time....but now that the exams are over, I bet I'll end up obsessed. :o

Why can't I resist it for one year!??

because you will fullfil your prophesy now that u have more time to give to the brother of bigness... that is the answer u answered yerself... that is the answer i have illustrated for u... i hope your exams go better than your comprehension of your own posts...;) :)

[REDMATT]

For those of you mocking the programme, dont you know its about dealing with crucial modern day issues?

For example - how long do gas powered straigtners last?
What exactly is the right hair style to enter the house with?

I mean what if your hair is too short to tie back or put in a bob?


Come on people, get with the issues here!!

[Evs]

Just seen it, and that girl wants shooting. She milked it and couldn't resist dragging the whole sordid little saga out for as long as possible, then feigned remorse at her possible eviction! Two-faced twat. She'll make capital out of this and will unfortunately avoid eviction for a couple of weeks while the inevitable media broo-ha-ha rolls on...but lovely Laura has got her number, don't you worry about that..........

Of course, this is what the missus told me as I don't watch the shite :o

[Taksin]

no one milked it more than the producers.

they are the lowest of the low

[Ricky_Blowdeal]

The programme has only themselves to blame for the reoccurrence of this type of incident. A house with 7/8 immature girls, it was only a matter of time before their ignorance led to something controversial happening. It was the same in the Celeb version, a few immature girls thinking they are big and clever.

[CODE RED]

Like I debated in the Shilpa threads months ago, ignorance is no defence.

It was confirmed by Channel 4 that Shilpa was called a "p#ki" by Danielle Lloyd in a limerick she made up. That's ok though "cos she's thick init"? The footage was withheld from the Police and not broadcast to the public either.

http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article2581218.ece

[Ricky_Blowdeal]

Like I debated in the Shilpa threads months ago, ignorance is no defence.

It was confirmed by Channel 4 that Shilpa was called a "p#ki" by Danielle Lloyd in a limerick she made up. That's ok though "cos she's thick init"? The footage was withheld from the Police and not broadcast to the public either.

http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article2581218.ece

On Emily's part, I don't believe it was ignorance. The 'N word' has now got two functions in todays society (well in some parts).

1) Racist remark
2) Gangster speak

Emily was using in the second context. The problem with this is that it is seen as socially acceptable within some groups, and is caused by rap music (or trip-hop or whatever it is called). This is double standards as is it is acceptable for a black person to use this word, but not someone of another race. People should make a stand against anyone using this word, including black people. Ban the music that uses this word, and it will mean silly little girls will not even think it could be acceptable.

[BigJCofBootle]

because you will fullfil your prophesy now that u have more time to give to the brother of bigness... that is the answer u answered yerself... that is the answer i have illustrated for u... i hope your exams go better than your comprehension of your own posts...;) :)

Oh, you're cheeky, you are!! ;)

Granted, my exams probably will go better. :p

[vin]

On Emily's part, I don't believe it was ignorance. The 'N word' has now got two functions in todays society (well in some parts).

1) Racist remark
2) Gangster speak

Emily was using in the second context. The problem with this is that it is seen as socially acceptable within some groups, and is caused by rap music (or trip-hop or whatever it is called). This is double standards as is it is acceptable for a black person to use this word, but not someone of another race. People should make a stand against anyone using this word, including black people. Ban the music that uses this word, and it will mean silly little girls will not even think it could be acceptable.

I don't disagree with this, but without the whole PC-world going mad at me, I'm going to say, that I have friends that use that word when addressing each other, they even use it when referring to me and I'm not black, we use it in banter. Anyone, who has been around multi-ethnic or cultural socities will understand how those terms can be used - a long time before gangsta rap made it "mainstream". However, I have friends I wouldn't dream of using if in their company and I certainly wouldn't use it when addressing someone I don't know.

Its like a lot of obscenities, they can be used to be an insult or almost a term of banter, for example - when arguing with a mate, the words bastard or cunt (just look at this forum - people calling each other cunt and cunter for a laugh!!!) can be used without them being taken offensively (well amongest people I know) but I wouldn't call someone I don't know unless its in extreme situations.

[CODE RED]

I don't disagree with this, but without the whole PC-world going mad at me, I'm going to say, that I have friends that use that word when addressing each other, they even use it when referring to me and I'm not black, we use it in banter. Anyone, who has been around multi-ethnic or cultural socities will understand how those terms can be used - a long time before gangsta rap made it "mainstream". However, I have friends I wouldn't dream of using if in their company and I certainly wouldn't use it when addressing someone I don't know.

Its like a lot of obscenities, they can be used to be an insult or almost a term of banter, for example - when arguing with a mate, the words bastard or cunt (just look at this forum - people calling each other cunt and cunter for a laugh!!!) can be used without them being taken offensively (well amongest people I know) but I wouldn't call someone I don't know unless its in extreme situations.

Historical lesson of where the word originated from?

You are right, it shouldn't be used in general conversation by anybody - but you have to understand that a black person saying that word to another black person is hardly the same thing as a white saying it (or anyone from another ethnic group saying the word to that black person). Isn't that obvious?

I hate the word if truth be told.

[vin]

Historical lesson of where the word originated from?

You are right, it shouldn't be used in general conversation by anybody - but you have to understand that a black person saying that word to another black person is hardly the same thing as a white saying it (or anyone from another ethnic group saying the word to that black person). Isn't that obvious?

I hate the word if truth be told.

How about me saying to a black person - but not as a derogatory term but in the same banter in which they use it with me?

[The Prince]

You don't have that right. If they're reclaiming the word and don't want non-blacks to use it to them then they have the right.

[vin]

You don't have that right. If they're reclaiming the word and don't want non-blacks to use it to them then they have the right.

Thats fine but if you read my original response to this, I'm not condoning the actions of the girl in the house, but my friends use the term amongst themselves and refer to me with that term even though I'm not black, I also use the term back to them and they are perfectly fine with it, as I said in my original post.

[The Prince]

There's no hard and fast rule. My girlfriend is black and I'd never use to her although we do quote from Boyz In The Hood from time to time. With some people it's okay and with a load of others it isn't. This girl (who seems genuinely contrite as opposed to the celeb edition) was wrong to guess she had that sort of relation with the other girl (don't know their names). Saw the Dermot programme this morning and she realises her mistake. My issue is with Channel 4 for not dealing with the celeb edition as swiftly as this, probably due to factors such as their own little fat starlet being involved and the inevitable ratings. If Jade Goody had said that this week and it was a one off she'd still be in there.

Still, as long as Paris Hilton's out...

[vin]

There's no hard and fast rule. My girlfriend is black and I'd never use to her although we do quote from Boyz In The Hood from time to time. With some people it's okay and with a load of others it isn't. This girl (who seems genuinely contrite as opposed to the celeb edition) was wrong to guess she had that sort of relation with the other girl (don't know their names). Saw the Dermot programme this morning and she realises her mistake. My issue is with Channel 4 for not dealing with the celeb edition as swiftly as this, probably due to factors such as their own little fat starlet being involved and the inevitable ratings. If Jade Goody had said that this week and it was a one off she'd still be in there.

Still, as long as Paris Hilton's out...

Quite...once again Big Brother driving the global news agenda...why don't they just be done with it and put in a Muslim, Palestenian, Iraqi, Jew, Hindu and then only serve beef and Pork

[CODE RED]

How about me saying to a black person - but not as a derogatory term but in the same banter in which they use it with me?

Two words - history lesson

[Ricky_Blowdeal]

Two words - history lesson

Two words - double standards

[CODE RED]

Hardly ricky.

For a second, I thought you were talking about the union jack in your avatar? ;)

Just jesting.

[AntonioLFC08]

What a big fat crock of shit Big Brother is.

The only decent thing in there was Emily and now she's been kicked out. :mad:

I don't condone hitting women but fucking hell I'd actually stand up and clap if ANYBODY beat the shit out of that horrible Charley bint.

"Can we just leave it now please" *everyone tries to go to sleep* THEN SHE FUCKING GOES ON AGAIN - JUST FUCK OFF !

Argh, stupid shite TV winding me up!




Least it takes my mind off the transfer front, eh? :o

[Plughead]

What a big fat crock of shit Big Brother is.

The only decent thing in there was Emily and now she's been kicked out. :mad:

I don't condone hitting women but fucking hell I'd actually stand up and clap if ANYBODY beat the shit out of that horrible Charley bint.

"Can we just leave it now please" *everyone tries to go to sleep* THEN SHE FUCKING GOES ON AGAIN - JUST FUCK OFF !

Argh, stupid shite TV winding me up!




Least it takes my mind off the transfer front, eh? :o

How? There is nothing remotely mentally stimulating about the series

[vin]

Two words - history lesson

History lesson for me? Or history lesson for them? Are you actually reading my responses?

[Psychoticmonkey]

Something occurred to me about this issue today. If nobody in the house took offence to the comment, then what's the problem? Because Big Brother claims its purpose is to provide psychological observations of people in a demanding situation, the housemates should not have to consider the outside world in anything they say or do.

If comments like that are fine in context, then so they should remain. (Although having said that, white middle aged women would have caused uproar if she'd stayed in - "How dare she use such an offensive term on national television?")

[CODE RED]

I don't disagree with this, but without the whole PC-world going mad at me, I'm going to say, that I have friends that use that word when addressing each other, they even use it when referring to me and I'm not black, we use it in banter. Anyone, who has been around multi-ethnic or cultural socities will understand how those terms can be used - a long time before gangsta rap made it "mainstream". However, I have friends I wouldn't dream of using if in their company and I certainly wouldn't use it when addressing someone I don't know.

Its like a lot of obscenities, they can be used to be an insult or almost a term of banter, for example - when arguing with a mate, the words bastard or cunt (just look at this forum - people calling each other cunt and cunter for a laugh!!!) can be used without them being taken offensively (well amongest people I know) but I wouldn't call someone I don't know unless its in extreme situations.


BOTH MATE, sorry.

No one was hung from a tree or burned on a cross for being a b#st#rd (unless they were black as well). Sorry.

[CODE RED]

Something occurred to me about this issue today. If nobody in the house took offence to the comment, then what's the problem? Because Big Brother claims its purpose is to provide psychological observations of people in a demanding situation, the housemates should not have to consider the outside world in anything they say or do.

If comments like that are fine in context, then so they should remain. (Although having said that, white middle aged women would have caused uproar if she'd stayed in - "How dare she use such an offensive term on national television?")

That's why it a flawed and bag of sh#te show, in reality the channle/show has to consider the outside world. That is the rules (as have been shown by channel four being "punished).

[vin]

BOTH MATE, sorry.

No one was hung from a tree or burned on a cross for being a b#st#rd (unless they were black as well). Sorry.

Is that the crux of your argument? If it is then you don't understand and no amount of explaining from my part will. Just to reiterate my point on BB - i agree the girl was wrong!

[AntonioLFC08]

How? There is nothing remotely mentally stimulating about the series

It takes my mind off it when I'm thinking how much I'd like to punch that Charley. And most of the others to be fair.

[RedRich]

I hate everything.

[Taksin]

Apparently use of the word 'niggardly' has been prohibited in American universities, even though it has a completely different root and unrelated meaning..

The power of language

[CODE RED]

Is that the crux of your argument? If it is then you don't understand and no amount of explaining from my part will. Just to reiterate my point on BB - i agree the girl was wrong!

"...its like a lot of obscenities..." Then you mentioned b#stard or c#nt. No where near in a million miles are they alike. Sorry, but - wtf?

[BigJCofBootle]

It takes my mind off it when I'm thinking how much I'd like to punch that Charley. And most of the others to be fair.

When you're at it, punch the twins for me!

[vin]

"...its like a lot of obscenities..." Then you mentioned b#stard or c#nt. No where near in a million miles are they alike. Sorry, but - wtf?

I don't see why you are having so much difficulty understanding this, so I'll explain it again, maybe if you took off your PC glasses and read what I have written and think about it, you may understand "wtf" I am talking about!

When the term is used by my friends (and I point out again they are black and most of them are highly educated) it is used as a term of banter between each other and its something they include me in (maybe because I have grown up with them and maybe because I am a minority as well). One of the reasons I gave why we can use it as banter is because they (we) see it as the same as any other obscenity when it's used in banter and I qualified that by saying I wouldn't dream of using either to someone I didn't know.

There's also a whole seperate point that Prince briefly touched on about "owning" the word and disempowering it, that I agree with - but I didn't want to argue that point through.

This is completely different to some middle-classed spoilt brat using it out of context on some reality show.

[CODE RED]

I don't see why you are having so much difficulty understanding this, so I'll explain it again, maybe if you took off your PC glasses and read what I have written and think about it, you may understand "wtf" I am talking about!

When the term is used by my friends (and I point out again they are black and most of them are highly educated) it is used as a term of banter between each other and its something they include me in (maybe because I have grown up with them and maybe because I am a minority as well). One of the reasons I gave why we can use it as banter is because they (we) see it as the same as any other obscenity when it's used in banter and I qualified that by saying I wouldn't dream of using either to someone I didn't know.

There's also a whole seperate point that Prince briefly touched on about "owning" the word and disempowering it, that I agree with - but I didn't want to argue that point through.

This is completely different to some middle-classed spoilt brat using it out of context on some reality show.

OK. Not the same as us talking face to face this forum stuff eh?

[vin]

OK. Not the same as us talking face to face this forum stuff eh?

No - fairplay! Still can't watch the show though!

[Ducatiboy749]

Everyone has said something stupid that they regret afterwards at some point - myself included on numerous occassions.

Get over it, move on and stop letting these dreadful, attention seeking twats, take up any more of your thoughts and time.

....but that's just my take on things so carry on at will.....;)

[Mel Wood]

Happy to say I have absolutely no interest in that shite any more. It's so obvious that it's extreme (read mental) personalities, desperate for a deal with Heat in return for aggravation and exploitation by Endemol it's just pathetic. Have only watched the opening night and the 'Emily' incident and will not be seeing it again but just flicking through the channels then I realised there are some more lookalikes.

That Charlie seems to be a young Neneh Cherry with the personality of Vicky Pollard, and Shabnam is surely the female incarnation of that comedian Ross Noble.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:3nlkcgs2fLTOiM:http://www.bbcworldwide.com/spokenword/images/200507/RossNoble_global.jpg

[RedRich]

Would it be fair to say that that Charley thing is a vacuous whore with no redeeming features? I think it is fair.

[ohdear]

Nice to see the hooker getting pushed in the pool though,top notch that.

[vin]

Would it be fair to say that that Charley thing is a vacuous whore with no redeeming features? I think it is fair.

I guess you have to be watching to know that!

[RedRich]

I guess you have to be watching to know that!

Ummmm...its just on because I'm waiting for My Name Is Earl. Honest guv.
Come on Vin, you telling me you haven't....dabbled? :)

[simon pieman]

Would it be fair to say that that Charley thing is a vacuous whore with no redeeming features? I think it is fair.

I caught the end of it last night but all she seemed worried about where her Gucci boots , shame poor girl what about your personallity?;)

[hyva sami]

whats going on with BB, has anyone been watching recently, i'm in Finland at the moment, so obviously cant watch it.

[NeverOffside]

whats going on with BB, has anyone been watching recently, i'm in Finland at the moment, so obviously cant watch it.

There was a fire. They all died. Nobody noticed.

[CODE RED]

A bunch of circus animals.

[hyva sami]

There was a fire. They all died. Nobody noticed.

Fuck. Was it part of a task.

[NeverOffside]

Fuck. Was it part of a task.

Yes. They had to torch the house and themselves to win a karaoke night. After much thought they went for it, and WON :)

[hyva sami]

Yes. They had to torch the house and themselves to win a karaoke night. After much thought they went for it, and WON :)

:D